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"Permission missing" tag[edit]

Hi, I have tagged a few pictures with the "permission missing" tag, and I noticed that this tag does not automatically include the date. Instead, it seems that someone had to clean up after me manually (apologies, and thanks @ Johnj1995). Why is that, if I may ask? I don't know a thing about software engineering, but I would imagine that it can't be a difficult feat to automate this. Thanks, --87.150.7.214 00:19, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • If you look at Template:No permission since, you will see that the directions begin with, "Note: do not transclude this template directly on a page." Yes, there is a solution, and it happens automatically if you follow the directions for how to use the template: You use {{subst:npd}} instead of using the template directly. - Jmabel ! talk 02:13, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks... but I am not quite sure I understand. To be honest, that page is not exactly self-explanatory, which makes it hard to "follow directions for how to use the template". I consider myself to be somewhat fluent in English but, to begin with, I have never heard the word "transclude". My go-to dictionary does not know it either. So, I still have no idea what I may have done wrong. --87.150.12.144 14:28, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Additional question - just wondering: How on earth would I go about finding that page, or further information on those tags, in the first place? I have searched the copyright info in vain several times for info on that "permission missing" tag. Can't find anything in the box on policies and guidelines either. The only thing that's easy to find is the "nominate for deletion" link on each page. --87.150.12.144 16:56, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Johnj1995: assuming that was still you, but not logged in.
  1. "Transclude" is a bit jargon-y, but it means the inclusion of one wiki page in another, usually with some processing involved. Besides the use of a template, the other main way it shows up here is every time an image or other media file is used in a page other than its own file page, but there are other uses. E.g. if you look at the source of Commons:Deletion requests/2023/01/04, you will see that it consists almost entirely of transclusions of individual deletion discussions (although at the moment I see that someone put one discussion directly in the page, probably because they tried to do something by hand that instead of using the "Nominate for deletion" button & they didn't actually know how to do that.
  2. "how on earth…": any time you are using a template, there is always a template page of that name. The only thing like an exception I can think of is that there are a tiny number of pseudo-templates that use almost the same syntax, but have a colon rather than a vertical bar before their arguments; these are hard-coded. Examples of that last are {{DEFAULTSORT:}} and {{subst:}}. Offhand I can't think of any others.
I hope that helps. And your questions are a good reminder that a lot of things that are obvious to those of us who've been using wikis for 20+ years are not necessarily common knowledge. I'm not sure how to address that particular learning curve. Ironically, as people have built Wizards, WYSIWYG interfaces, etc., that make a lot of things easier for new users, it conversely means that fewer new users really know what is going on "under the hood," so when they need to do things that are less automated they are at a loss. Not at all your fault, but, again, I'm not sure what is the way around it: we can't automate everything, there will always be edge cases. - Jmabel ! talk 17:24, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Anon: See also mw:Help:Transclusion.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:07, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel, @Jeff G.: Please note that Johnj1995 is the user who corrected the use of the template on the page after the user IP 87.150.x.x. He may not be interested to be be notified of comments in this discussion. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:04, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Asclepias: Sorry, I corrected my mistake.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The flag of the Square Kilometre Array Observatory office[edit]

I am working on updating the article on the list of diplomatic missions in Australia over on Wikipedia. When I progress to the representative offices section, one office that I will add is the Square Kilometre Array Observatory office. This organisation doesn't have their own flag on Wikimedia commons, however in real life they do (see it in action here). Can this file be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons for use on the wikipedia page showing what their flag looks like? Thanks for your help. HoHo3143 (talk) 12:31, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @HoHo3143: I'm not sure what on that page you mean by "this file," but it looks like everything on that page is copyrighted and no free license is offered. - Jmabel ! talk 18:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sorry for the misunderstanding. By "this file" I mean the SKAO flag/logo on the left of this webpage. HoHo3143 (talk) 01:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @HoHo3143: I don't see a flag there. I see a (presumably copyrighted) logo. Unless you have evidence that logo is either public domain or free-licensed, then we can't have it on Commons. Am I missing something that gives you the impression that one of those two situations applies? - Jmabel ! talk 01:23, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      Ok thanks for clearing it up. I don't think that any of those two situations apply. I just wanted to double check with someone else so I don't go and accidentally upload something I shouldn't. Thanks for you help. HoHo3143 (talk) 13:04, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stachys palustris[edit]

Listed at Category:Stachys palustris is the page Stachys palustris, which seems to contain a subset of images from the category. What is the purpose of the latter page, and is it in fact necessary? I don't remember seeing this kind of thing before. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ITookSomePhotos, see Commons:Galleries. --Achim55 (talk) 21:05, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see, thanks. I think that the word "gallery" is the pertinent one here, and that this word should be included prominently on such pages, to give readers an idea of the purpose of the page. (I see now that it is on the tab at the top of the page, but no one is going to notice that.) ITookSomePhotos (talk) 22:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ITookSomePhotos: that seems a bit like saying that the word "article" should appear prominently on Wikipedia articles. - Jmabel ! talk 01:32, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, because it is obvious to anyone what the purpose of an article is. To the uninitiated, or at least the uninitiated familiar with the category system, the purpose of Stachys palustris is not at all clear, as it only appears to redundantly partly duplicate Category:Stachys palustris. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 09:55, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ITookSomePhotos: I'm pretty certain that galleries like this actually preceded categories on Commons. For most purposes, categories are more useful, so they've come to dominate, and galleries have been (sadly, in my view) neglected. Here are a few examples of much better galleries: Seattle, Places of worship in Seattle, Romanian Orthodox churches in Bucharest. As you can see, there is a lot that you can do with this that can't be done with categories. (Small enough "galleries", up to maybe a dozen or so photos, can by built directly on a category page instead of having a separate gallery page, but beyond that it becomes really unwieldy and counterproductive to the normal use of the category.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:30, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pinging @Mbc, who created the gallery in 2005.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:25, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Downloading a Diagram for Personal Use[edit]

Business Flow Chart for Personal Use Only -- I tried to attribute the artist's company, but the link was not functional. This visual is for my own use, and won't be shared with anyone else, but as a creative artist, I feel very strongly regarding attribution, which I was not able to provide. Unappreciatedinmytime (talk) 02:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Unappreciatedinmytime: If no one but you is seeing the image, that is no problem. When you click in to look at an image at higher scale in a browser, there's no attribution there, either. But if, for example, you were to use it in a presentation at a company where you work, you'd need to attribute it in your presentation. - Jmabel ! talk 17:33, 21 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Unappreciatedinmytime: See also COM:REUSE.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:09, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photos of building exteriors, streetscapes, and urban landscapes[edit]

The Upload Wizard page says that "You can upload your photographs of old art, statues, and buildings (usually over 150 years old)".

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard

Are you quite certain that the over 150 years old rule applies to building exteriors? It seems unreasonably restrictive. If it were true, I don't see how countless photos could be legal: how could you take a picture of any city or any streetscape?

How could Google Street View even exist?

Thanks for your help! Markbear (talk) 04:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Markbear. I'm not sure where the figure "150 years" came from, but whether you can photograph of the exteriors of buildings, etc. most likely largely on a copyright concept known as freedom of panorama (or FOP) and how this concept is applied can vary greatly from country to country. Under US copyright law, for example, there is complete FOP for buildings and other habitable structures completed before December 1, 1990, and limited FOP for buildings completed on or after that date as explained in COM:FOP United States. So, in the US you can take a photo of a building without having to worry about infringing upon the copyright of the building's designer. Things are very different in some other countries (e.g. COM:FOP France) and the copyright held by building designers is given more protection. Since Commons only accepts content released under certain types of licenses and these licenses permit the reuse of such content for unrestricted commercial and derivative purposes, my guess was that the 150-year cutoff date was chosen because by that time any possible copyright held by a building's designer would likely be considered to be no longer valid under the copyright laws of most of the countries around the world, which means the chance of infringement is quite low. FWIW, for most people taking personal photos of buildings for strictly personal use (photo albums, social media posts or the like), FOP is probably not something that needs to be worried about. However, it can become an issue when people try to use their photos for commercial purposes or try to create derivative works using their photos and release the derivative work under licenses that don't take into consideration any possible copyright on the building's design. A photo of a 3D object is generally considered to be a derivative work in which their can be two copyrights needing consideration: the copyright of the photo and the copyright of the 3D object. While the person taking the photo owns the copyright on that photo and might be willing to release it under one of the licenses that Commons accepts, the person who created the 3D object owns the copyright on the design of the object and might not willing to release it under any such license. Since Commons wants the content it hosts to be as unencumbered by copyright restrictions as much as possible to make such content as easy to reuse as possible, the COM:CONSENT of both copyright holders is often needed for Commons to host this type of content. Of course, things are a bit more complicated because of another copyright concept called de minimis among other things, but the general governing principle when it comes to such photos is FOP. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Enquiry into the re-use of files marked as in the public domain[edit]

Hello,

I am writing to ask whether files that are marked as in the public domain, such as File:Emily Davison (Suffragette) killed by King's Horse at Derby (1913).webm, are available for re-use despite the British Pathe watermark in the top-right corner of the screen? There are many videos on Wikimedia that are labelled as in the public domain but are present on the British Pathe website, are they all truly in the public domain?

Thank you for your help in advance,

James Utahfrysauce (talk) 13:10, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Utahfrysauce: It is possible someone did the analysis of rights wrong on that particular image, and you are, of course, ultimately responsible for making that judgement yourself if you reuse the photo. Commons is not your lawyer! But the PD claim looks reasonable to me. A 110-year-old film that appears to have been published under a corporate name would have been in the public domain in the UK for the last 40 years. - Jmabel ! talk 18:27, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SVG translation tool problems[edit]

Hi! I'm having some problems with last few SVG files translation to Slovene (all from English). Translations a) don't even show up as an option in language selector dropdown menu (ie. the one with Palatine uvula, no Slovenian amongst options) or corrupts the file (ie. map of Holy Roman Empire). Any ideas or is something wrong with the tool? A09 (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

photographs of ceramic art of a dead artist[edit]

can I upload photographs that I made of ceramic art of a dead artist; the ceramic art was built into my in-laws house? Phil Arachno from Flickr (talk) 15:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Depends on whether the artist is already dead long enough, so that his works are in the public domain, which is 70 years after death in most countries. Also, if this is about ceramic tiles/mosaics outdoors at a house-wall, this might be covered by freedom-of-panorama exception, depending on the country. --Túrelio (talk) 15:44, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is it okay to upload 9 Story Media's logo onto wikimedia?[edit]

I've noticed that on 9 story media's Wikipedia page, there isn't a logo. I wanted to add the logo but I had to upload it here. I looked through the rules and found that I couldn't upload their logo here. Is that completely accurate and do I have to ask for 9 story's permission to use their logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WiinterU (talk • contribs) 19:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WinterU: I presume you are referring to en:9 Story Media Group and that their logo is the stylized "9" made of triangles that I see on their site. I think that is probably above the threshold of originality for Canadian copyright ('would require "intellectual effort" and "must not be so trivial that it could be characterized as a purely mechanical exercise"') so it's probably not suitable for Commons. You could upload it directly to the English-language Wikipedia, for use only on that particular article in the English-language Wikipedia, as a non-free logo. See en:Template:Non-free logo. Or, it is possible that the consensus at Commons:Village pump/Copyright would be that this is below Canada's threshold of originality, in which case you could upload it to Commons using {{Textlogo}} in lieu of a copyright tag. If you want to do the latter, bring the question to Commons:Village pump/Copyright where you are more likely to find expertise on this rather tricky question. - Jmabel ! talk 03:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brunell Tutonda[edit]

I would like to upload these photos in gallery — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tutonda (talk • contribs) 00:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Tutonda: what photos? - Jmabel ! talk 03:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

勇丸くんの画像削除について　[edit]

調布商工会のマスコットキャラクター・勇丸くんについて、商工会の方より「画像を載せたいが、やり方が分からない」と相談を受けました。商工会に著作権は譲渡されたと説明を受けたので、掲載しいたしました。「著作権侵害による削除」となっていますが、依頼した組織の別の人物が削除を申し出たということでしょうか？詳細を教えてください。よろしくお願いいたします。 クレイトスⅣ世 (talk) 06:11, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

こんにちはクレイトスⅣ世さん、片言な日本語で申し訳ございませんが、ファイル名をご存じますか。もしかしてFile:東京調布市・調布市商工会公式キャラクター勇丸くん.jpgのファイルでしょうか。そのファイルならばこのページをご覧ください。また、英語バージョンしかありませんが、COM:COSTUMEもご参考ください。なお、ファイルの削除の申し出た方はNetoraさんという利用者です。NetoraさんのCommonsの利用者ページによれば日本語を母国語レベルでご理解なさるそうなので、削除詳細についてUser talk:Netora 又は ja:利用者‐会話:Netoraのどちらでも日本語で本人にお訊ねください。-- Marchjuly (talk) 06:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Finding translators[edit]

Is there a way to find users here who are willing (and able) to translate between certain languages? I feel like there should be, but I can’t think of any.

Specifically, DuckDuckGo seems to think that the recently-updated caption of File:陰茎による包皮の解説用のデータ 00.jpg (a human penis) is gibberish, but maybe DuckDuckGo is just bad at translating. I want a competent translator to check and to add an English caption while they are there. Brianjd (talk) 08:11, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What about translate.google.com? Wouter (talk) 09:56, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens Some of us prefer to avoid Google services where possible. Still, I tried it via Tor and got the translation below. It’s probably not as bad as DuckDuckGo, but clearly not as good as a human.
Japanese: 20代男性による陰茎による包皮の資料データである。折れ曲がるほどの包皮に包まれた鬼頭は綺麗な桃色と推測できる。刈上げられた陰毛は衛生面を考えられており包皮に巻き込む事が無い。根元が良く見える陰茎は、脈を打つ血管が根元からくっきりと見える。これは陰茎や鬼頭・玉袋などの性感帯が刺激され始めるとともに、男性器が成長した証である。血管がはっきりとして太いモノが好まれる傾向があり、性的興奮を促す1つの要素と言える。
English: This is material data of a foreskin by a man in his twenties. It can be inferred that Kito, wrapped in a bendable foreskin, is a beautiful pink color. The shaved pubic hair is considered for hygiene and does not get caught in the foreskin. The root of the penis is clearly visible, and the pulsating blood vessels are clearly visible from the root. This is proof that the erogenous zones such as the penis, Kito, and Tamabukuro have started to be stimulated, and the male genitals have grown. They tend to like things with clear blood vessels and thick ones, which can be said to be one of the factors that promotes sexual arousal.
A human could clean this up a bit, but I don’t know what ‘Kito’, ‘bendable foreskin’ or ‘Tamabukuro’ mean, what is supposed to be pink, or what is supposed to ‘have grown’. I have no idea what the last sentence is referring to. I don’t know what ‘material data’ (DuckDuckGo said something like that too) is supposed to mean. Brianjd (talk) 10:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
DeepL is a good MT tool. (Bing and Yandex have translation tools too) C.Suthorn (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Brianjd. You can try en:Wikipedia:Translators available on English Wikipedia, though I'm not sure how current that page is. You could also try the talk page of a en:Wikipedia:WikiProject which might cover articles related to the language you need translated. There's also Category:Users by language and Category:Wikipedians by language where you might find someone to help with any translating, but again there's no way to know how current those pages are. FWIW, machine or online translations can be hit or miss; they're much better then they once were perhaps, but they're still limited in many ways. For example, the translation given above includes several romanized Japanese words that might not have been in the translation software's dictionary. "Tamabukuro" literally means "ball sack" and is sometimes used as slangy way to refer to the scrotum. "Kito(u)" lterally means "Ogre head" (based on the characters used) and is a slangy way of referring to the tip of the penis. It seems as if that term can actually be written a couple of different ways using different characters for "Ki" that are pronounced the same way. There's actually a surname that uses the same characters used above that's also pronounced "Kitou" which might possibly explain why the software simply romanized the word since it was unable to understand the context in which it was being used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)　Reply[reply]
At least it’s not patent nonsense, as it first appeared, so I think I can leave it for now. The Wikipedia links are useful, though it looks like they need to restructure their pages (there is a merge request and a link to an inactive page). Brianjd (talk) 08:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photo upload doesn't work[edit]

Hi, when I try to upload a photo that I have taken myself, this message appears: "We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons." Can you help me? LF12345 (talk) 09:22, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@LF12345 I am curious too. Are you using the Upload Wizard? At what point does that message appear? Pinging @Jeff G.. Brianjd (talk) 10:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I used the upload wizard, the message appeared after I added the photo title & description and clicked "safe" LF12345 (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Maybe a filter. small file, small resolution, no exif, uncommon format? C.Suthorn (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C.Suthorn Nothing at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=LF12345. If they triggered an abuse filter, shouldn’t it be logged there? Brianjd (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Brianjd: The appropriate log page is https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=LF12345 .   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:20, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G. I can see the entries there. But I still don’t understand the difference between that page and the normal log page, which has an ‘Abuse filter’ category. Brianjd (talk) 14:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Brianjd: You are welcome to file a phab: task about actual abuse filter log entries not showing on Special:Log.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:58, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I found other complaints but no good answers:
Brianjd (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is Offroader as an upload tool that will give exact messages why a file cannot be uploaded. But for small files the free version will not do. C.Suthorn (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Found it at Commons:Guide to batch uploading. Some please change that. It is shameful that we send users to proprietary apps at all, let alone ones that must be accessed via websites that do not support HTTPS and use passwords instead of OAuth (https://web.archive.org/web/20221209163101/http://adp.gg/R/P/OFROAD: If you do not trust the app to protect your password, change your password at Wikimedia Commons before using the app and then again after you uploaded all files, that you wanted to upload.). Brianjd (talk) 13:20, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OAUTH is only available to software at wmflabs. Wmflabs belongs to WMF the very organization, that is not able to provide a working Upload Wizard (or an App that works on iOS to upload to Commons). --C.Suthorn (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C.Suthorn Then it seems like users are forced to use third-party software with their password. (That is still shameful, but now the shame belongs to a different organisation.) Now it is even more important that that software is libre and subject to community scrutiny. Brianjd (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
see: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Digitaler_Themenstammtisch#63._DTS,_05._Januar_2023:_Wie_kaputt_ist_Wikimedia_Commons? abstract: WMF has a team to make uploads better, but it is struggling to find out, why pngs and jpgs need different thumbnailing. It will probably take years to improve upload, but WMF is working on it C.Suthorn (talk) 12:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@LF12345: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/153 by trying to cross-wiki upload a smaller (<50,000 bytes or <2,000,000 pixels) jpg photo as a new user. The photo you tried to upload is smaller, and you indicated it's your own work. Usually when someone uploads a smaller photo, it is a copyright violation taken from the web. If you took the photo yourself, please upload the full-size original of it per COM:HR, including EXIF metadata. If you did not take the photo, please see Commons:Licensing for why we can't accept it, and have the photographer post permission on their official website or social media or send the photo and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. If you can't get a compliant license, the photo may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F because we don't allow Fair Use here. If you use our Upload Wizard instead, you should be able to avoid that filter.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:20, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seek information[edit]

I have uploaded photograph of a rare image from a 7th century Vajrayana Buddhist Shrine, Kyichu Lakhang. File:Paiting on the wall of Kyichu Lhakhang.jpg ‎ The text is in Tibetan Language. I request my friend, Tibetan expert, to describe this to me in English. Prof Ranga Sai (talk) 18:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Prof Ranga Sai: unfortunately i'm not aware of any active tibetan user here. even the tibetan wikipedia has no active users: https://bo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges .--RZuo (talk) 10:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. I shall update details on my next visit to a Tibetan Monastery. Thanks again for you concern. Prof Ranga Sai (talk) 10:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading modified files from Wikimedia Commons[edit]

Hi! Let's say I want to upload a picture from Wikimedia Commons with some minor changes (e.g. marking a certain anatomical spot in a picture to make it easier to see in a wikipedia article what spot is beeing described). I do not want to overwrite the original file. Do I have to choose the option "this is not my own work" as the major part is in fact not mine or do I have to state that it is my own work and write in the description what original file I used? Mikulicz (talk) 18:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Mikulicz: I would strongly recommend using Special:Upload for this, rather than Special:UploadWizard. Copy the wikitext from the source page, paste it into the upload form, make the few revisions needed ("such-and-such marker added by "so-and-so", etc.) and link the two file pages with {{Derivative works}} / {{Derived from}}, preferably in the "other versions" portion found in {{Information}} and most similar templates. - Jmabel ! talk 21:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Jmabel: Thank You for the help! Could You check whether I appied it correctly? This is the uploaded file Human_jawbone_front_Incisale.jpg. And this the orignial file: Human_jawbone_front.jpg Mikulicz (talk) 22:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Mikulicz: I made a few edits but you did the essential (namely, being clear what it derived from, so someone else could do any cleanup). I would guess that your derived image is no longer sRGB, though, as it still claims. Am I correct? - Jmabel ! talk 23:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Jmabel: Thank You again! I will pay attention to the colour profile in the future! It's called "GIMP built-in sRGB". Does that still count as sRGB? Mikulicz (talk) 23:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Mikulicz: Probably so. Frankly, this is something I've rarely seen anyone state explicitly, but since your derivative carried along the statement it raised that question for me. - Jmabel ! talk 00:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading illustrations from fairy tale books published before 1928 and uploaded in Archive.org and Googlebooks[edit]

I've been updating folktale and fairy tale articles in the English Wikipedia and I've been meaning to upload some artwork related to the tales to illustrate the article. Problem is, the books I want to use are uploaded to sites like Archive.org and Googlebooks, and both are public domain (one from 1923 and ca. 1884). How can I upload an illustration from these books and give proper attribution to their sources on Archive.org/Googlebooks? KHR FolkMyth (talk) 22:25, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

by selecting "not my own work" in upload wizard, and ading the url in the source input field. C.Suthorn (talk) 22:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

uploading a photo[edit]

hello help desk people, so im wanting to upload an image of a singer by the name of Cavetown, however i have a question. if Cavetown uploaded a photo of himself to social media, would i be able to upload that photo myself? this is probably a stupid question, i know, but im stilll new here, sorry. thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeymoo458 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Monkeymoo458: No, you almost certainly cannot upload that. Commons accepts only images that are free-licensed or in the public domain. Most of what you will find on social media (and on the Internet in general) will not meet either of those criteria.
In general, if you are going to be uploading images that are not your own, and which are not very old (like 19th century or earlier), you will need to understand these concepts of free-licensing and public domain. If you don't, you'll probably just end up uploading a bunch of stufff that gets deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 00:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category redirects[edit]

How do I check them? For example, how can I discover what are all the redirects of Category:People? RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RodRabelo7:
  1. Navigate to Category:People, or Category:Arte da Língua Brasílica, or whatever.
  2. Choose "What links here"
  3. Narrow that (with the dropdown) to just "Category" space
  4. That gives 173 categories for Category:People, which is tractable to look through.
  5. There might also be a redirect in "(Gallery)" space, so you might imaginably want to look there as well.
Jmabel ! talk 03:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, thank you! Now it really makes sense… I was being a little bit, well, dumb. RodRabelo7 (talk) 05:00, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kerry Kennedy Author[edit]

Hi I don´t understand the error messages I keep receiving once I have hit publish page then entered the captcha. I keep receiving messages that I really don´t understand. Can you take a look please. Kerry Kennedy Author (talk) 11:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kerry Kennedy Author: I notice that four minutes after asking this you uploaded File:Author Picture KK.jpg. Does that mean this is resolved?
I see you credit yourself as taking this photograph of you. Does that mean it is a self-portrait? - Jmabel ! talk 16:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kerry Kennedy Author: Your upload is now nominated for deletion. If you don't reply, it is simply going to go away. It's a good photo, I'd like to see this sorted out. - Jmabel ! talk 16:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What exactly does all rights reserved mean?[edit]

A lot of my SVGs of things like flags and seals get taken down for copyright infringement, which is understandable, I have a hard time understanding copyright law, however I have a question about particular circumstances. I have vectorized many municipal seals and flags, and they have been taken down, and some of my buddies who also edit wikimedia projects have told me it’s due to the fact that the municipal website states “All rights reserved” at the bottom of the website (not on the image of the seal or flag), which means that everything you find on the website is owned by the municipality. However I find this difficult to believe. One particular case I have a question on is the seal of Midlothian, Illinois. The website of the village only states all rights reserved, 2006-2023. Would this mean anything on it from before 2006 is not owned by the village? The village seal was adopted in 1991, and it was removed from commons but this would suggest that it is not copyrighted by the village. Thanks for any help. Jack Ryan Morris (talk) 15:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Jack Ryan Morris: No, it would not. At this point under U.S. law, it is actually redundant to state "All rights reserved" at all, just a matter of pointing out a fact. Since March 1, 1989, any new work published in the U.S. that is eligible for copyright is automatically copyrighted. Commons hosts copyrighted works only if they are free-licensed.
  • For copyright status of U.S. works, you might want to see Commons:Hirtle_chart. - Jmabel ! talk 16:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Carol Kazeem.jpg[edit]

This is an official portrait released by the Pennsylvania State Legislature. I don't reasonably expect it would be subject to any copyright claims or controversy, but I couldn't find any CC licensing terms on the General Assembly's webpage, nor on the profile/biography page of this member. I believe it to be exempt from copyright since it's produced by the state government for public consumption.

--Alpha 4615 (talk) 16:54, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Inclusion criteria[edit]

Hello! I want to upload a screenshot of a conversation I had with a friend where they said "every time I donate to wiki I think of you" to add to my en.wiki userpage, but I wanted to make sure it wouldn't be deleted. I know users upload personal photos for their userpages all the time (I certainly have) but I wanted to double check that this would also be allowed, or would it fall under being "not educationally useful"? ThadeusOfNazereth (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @ThadeusOfNazereth: you are an active user, so uploading something to use on your user page is acceptable. On the other hand, if it violates copyrights (e.g. copyrighted visual elements on the screen exceeding the de minimis threshold), then it could be deleted as a copyvio. Also, if it were no longer used on your user page, it would probably become eligible for deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 20:51, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Cool, thank you! ThadeusOfNazereth (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Upload City Proclamation[edit]

Hello, my father was a noted local newsman and upon his death the City of Los Angeles' mayor's office sent us, the surviving family, a letter which I thought would be of public interest. It is not copyrighted nor is the information proprietary, can you help me? LStoutGlennon (talk) 22:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@LStoutGlennon How do you know the letter isn't copyrighted? This is relevant to what license tag would be appropriate. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 04:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi LStoutGlennon. There are a couple of things about this file. First, individual letters, words or simple combinations of text aren't generally considered eligible for copyright protection under US copyright law and I'd imagine under the copyright laws of most countries around the world. However, combinations of words exhibiting some kind of creative input by the writer (e.g. books, articles, letters, etc.) can be eligible for copyright protection not on a per letter basis but as a combintation together. So, it's possible that the text of the letter is copyrighted.
Next, any graphic elements found in a letter may also be eligible for copyright protection separate from the textual content of the letter. For these reasons, you can't really claim this as COM:Own work per se and release it as a license because technically you aren't the copyright holder of the letter (i.e. you're not the person who created the letter or the graphic elements located at the top). However, California is one of the few US states that has statutes on its books stating that works created by state employees as part of their official duties are considered to be within the public domain, and I believe this statute also extends down to the county and municipal levels as well. In other words, such works are by statute not eligible for copyright protection unless specifically stated otherwise. So, even though this isn't your "own work" and the {{CC-by-sa-4.0}} license you selected is not really appropriate, there's a fairly good chance that the document can be treated as {{PD-CAGov}} and is OK for Commons. Since a 2D photograph or scan of something such as this is generally considered insufficient to establish a separate copyright for said photo or scan per COM:2D copying, the license {{PD-scan}} can be used in combination with the "PD-CAGov" license for the certificate itself.
Finally, Commons tends to only host images that fall within COM:SCOPE; it's not really intended to be an online personal photo album or storage site. It's not clear how you're planning to use this image, but please make sure it's done in accordance with "COM:SCOPE" since the file could end up deleted for that reason alone even if it's license is OK for Commmons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files in Category:Living people[edit]

Category:Living people currently contains 341 files, e.g. File:Ankita Jain.jpg since 2021. Can the category be removed from files? It's not in Category:Categories requiring permanent diffusion to zero like Category:Deceased people by name. I came by the files in an incategory search at the English Wikipedia for non-articles which are inappropriately in w:Category:Living people which is only for articles. I was surprised to get Commons hits from a category with the same name. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Long ago we got turned this category into a redirect (whose target was changed at least once). Then someone recreated it and it survived a CfD on the basis that "The category is now being auto-populated by Template:Wikidata Infobox." Pinging @Mike Peel who closed that discussion. - Jmabel ! talk 18:47, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • The Infobox only does subcategories (which can be auto-updated when people's Wikidata items get date of death added to them), not images. I'm not too sure what the best solution is here, but I think it would be good to move the images into appropriate categories about individual people where possible. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright statuses of movie props[edit]

Hi, I think this may be a rather unusual case but does anyone happen to know how copyrights work on movie props? I own quite a few screen-used props in my collection, such as Mr Tumnus's letter used in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, casino chips from Ocean's Eleven and Elvis, and photographs of Helen Mirren taken for a scene in The Clearing but not shown in the final cut. Some of them are recognisable, sure, but most are inconspicuous and generic enough that one can hardly tell which film they are from without knowledge of their provenances (for instance, the said letter from Narnia is littered with indecipherable gibberish). So, could I, for example, scan one of such prop documents and use the image to illustrate the film's article? Or should I consider them copyrighted just as much as the films themselves are? Fred Cherrygarden (talk) 19:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stuff like letters or photographs almost certainly carry their own copyright. Casino chips, unless they have an illustration on them, probably do not. It depends on the item.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20:42, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In most countries, nowadays, if something can be copyrighted, it is considered copyrighted at creation. So if it's something that would be eligible for copyright, then it almost certainly is copyrighted. - Jmabel ! talk 21:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think there is any difference between things made for a film and things made for other reasons (I might be wrong, IANAL). I'd love to have them here, though, and Wikipedias allowing fair use may be interested. Some of the props may not have any copyright because of being utility objects or of a simple or generic enough design, but still interesting because of their history. Things made as copies of some well-known object may not have a copyright of their own, and the copyright of the original may have expired. –LPfi (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

/* أحدث التغييرات */ Insertable wiki markup/Translations[edit]

هل رفع الملفات في ويكيميديا كومينز لها مردود مادي؟ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamdikhalidsaif (talk • contribs) 03:37, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • No, it is not profitable. Contributors here don't get paid. This is strictly volunteer.
  • (via Google translate:) لا ، ليست مربحة. المساهمون هنا لا يتقاضون رواتبهم. هذا تطوعي بصرامة.
- Jmabel ! talk 04:19, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

{{Category redirect}}[edit]

What’s the difference between {{Category redirect|Category:xxx}} and {{Category redirect|xxx}}? They seem to work the same way, but the template documentation tells me to use the second one. RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Because it is simpler. Ruslik (talk) 09:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Erland safir prayoga[edit]

Sejak tahun 1939 dari bebas menjajah belanda dan jepang. mars televisi (15 agustus 1939) lainnya hukuman indonesia asia erland safir prayoga (23 januari 2009) live straming tv dalam judul kaya raya presiden soekarno dan soeharto 17 agustus 1945 pancasila mars tv ABRI dan RRI sejak 1945 (dari erland safir prayoga) (25 januari 2023) dunia negara nusantara nippon produk televisi MARS TELEVSI asli indonesia sejak 1950 setiap tahun (tv streaming film anak olahraga berita musik) sasikan acaranya 51th TVRI berbagi seluruh indonesia 36.69.162.47 12:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Apa pertanyaan anda? --Achim55 (talk) 12:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

foto of Heinrich Lissauer (error)[edit]

the portrait of Heinrich Lissauer in wikipedia is that of Carl Wernicke , and interestingly used for both in their wikipedia-features! But it is Carl Wernicke and - I believe - there is no foto of Lissauer available.His wikipedia article should be revised, by deleting the foto. Prof.Dr.med. Bernd Holdorff (Berlin) bernd.holdorff@gmx.de. 94.223.85.13 09:46, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hallo, auf welchen Artikel beziehen Sie sich? In keinem der 5 Lissauer-Artikel sehe ich ein Portrait. Lediglich im deutschsprachigen Artikel de:Heinrich Lissauer steht File:Gray669.png. Oder meinten Sie de:Abraham Lissauer? --Túrelio (talk) 09:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

difference between Wikimedia common and Wikipedia[edit]

How is Wikimedia common different from Wikipedia? what makes the two different? Mimi Prowess (talk) 13:04, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mimi Prowess: Hi, and welcome. The difference is between a file repository and an encyclopedia which uses files from it.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:04, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright of a 1971 US brochure[edit]

Hi. This undated brochure was published in the United States in circa 1971. Can we assume that {{PD-US-no notice}} applies to this file? HeminKurdistan (talk) 16:24, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi HeminKurdistan. I don't think you can make such an assumption simply based on the link you provided above. The image shown on that website doesn't have a visible copyright notice on it for sure, but there's no way to tell whether the website cropped the image in some way for aesthetic purposes. It also looks like the brochure has multiple pages and there's no way to know for sure whether a copyright notice appeared on one of the other pages. Ideally, it would be best to try and fine a clean unaltered image of the brochure showing all the pages to make sure there was no notice on any of them in order to be sure it's {{PD-US-no notice}}. Others might feel differently, but I don't think this would survive a deletion nomination per COM:PCP without some stronger COM:EVID showing the brochure is OK for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:03, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! HeminKurdistan (talk) 13:37, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes check.svg Resolved
I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. --RZuo (talk) 10:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bart simpson costumed man.JPG[edit]

Does images like these belong under the category "cosplay"? It looks more like an entertainer in a children's amusement park Trade (talk) 17:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Convenience link: File:Bart simpson costumed man.JPG. - Jmabel ! talk 01:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hard to say. Personally, I've never been happy about those "cosplay" categories, because they make an assumption about the motivation of the people depicted. I've seen them applied (for example) to costumed people in parades from before that term was even invented. (Sort of like the person who wouldn't believe that File:2000 Fremont Solstice Parade - blue women.jpg, possibly NSFW, had nothing to do with the film Avatar… which came out nine years later.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So what category are we supposed to use instead? Trade (talk) 15:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete photo[edit]

How do I delete a photo that I uploaded? Gooze1989 (talk) 18:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In the first week after upload, you can ask an admin for a courtesy deletion. You cannot delete uploaded fotos. The license you choose for your upload cannot be revoked. Even if it was possible to delete, someone else who made a copy can upload the copy as long as the attribution is correct. C.Suthorn (talk) 18:22, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There never seems to be any consequences for news sites taking pictures without attribution os it's kind of a moot point Trade (talk) 22:46, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C.Suthorn Where can i ask admin for help with deletion? Ivel66 (talk) 08:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can contact an admin at their talk page or via wikimail. You can ask at HelpDesk or VillagePump. But almost always you should go through a DR (left column of file description page) or in the case of a courtesy deletion just add the speedy template with the courtesy reasoning to the file description page. C.Suthorn (talk) 09:17, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Gooze1989: I assume this is about File:Los Angeles with Mount Baldy~2bbb.jpg, which has now been deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 01:17, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C.Suthorn: no, if someone else were to re-upload a photo to Commons that had been speedied on this basis, we would almost certainly delete it as a courtesy to the original uploader (presuming that uploader was also the photographer; obviously we wouldn't do that if this was public domain work or someone else's licensed work in the first place). - Jmabel ! talk 01:17, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Trade: I assume your comment is somehow related to the topic of this thread, but I have no idea what you mean to say. - Jmabel ! talk 01:17, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bright Vachirawit Wiki picture[edit]

I am unable to get any of his pictures from media. He is brand ambassador of Burberry but there is no registered photos which public could use to change his outdated wiki picture without copyright issue. Any help? BrightsForever (talk) 19:45, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The current picture that is on the English Wikipedia is about 18 months old, which doesn't seem outdated to me. If you need a more updated photo, you may want to reach out to his talent management company: they should be able to provide one and publish it on a social media account with a caption saying that it's licensed in an appropriate way or in the public domain. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It won't be "in the public domain" even if they wish it to be (though CC-0 is pretty close too that). If they want to do this, they definitely should indicate a particular "free license" (e.g. CC-BY-SA-4.0) or CC-0, because we can't accept images on the basis of a vague claim that they may be freely used. - Jmabel ! talk 01:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By "licensed in an appropriate way or in the public domain" I am simply stating that they may have access to media that they know has an appropriate license, can re-license, or which may be in the public domain. I am not suggesting that they have legislative authority to determine the public domain. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:25, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can not publish my records recorded via Lingua Libre.[edit]

It records, but when I press the button to publish it on Wikimedia Commons. It does not work. It returns as "Retry failed upload" Any idea? Thank you. Key Mîrza (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Key Mîrza: You might do better to ask at https://lingualibre.org/wiki/LinguaLibre:Chat_room - Jmabel ! talk 01:22, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How are gifted photographs treated?[edit]

As an illustrative hypothetical, if a friend of mine takes a picture with his camera, and then fully gifts that picture to me (with all its intellectual/creator rights), does Wikimedia Commons accept that albeit i was not the creator of the picture, I am nevertheless the owner of it and that I am free to be the one donate and upload the picture to Wikimedia Commons?

And, if the answer is yes, in the upload process do I select the option "This is my own work"? Does "my own work" mean that I created the picture -which I would not be able to claim in the hypothetical above- and/or that I have ownership of the work (wether I created it or was gifted to me) Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 07:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Al83tito. In principle, the person taking the photo is considered to be the copyright holder of the photo and they can transfer their copyright to others if they want. In your example, your friend is the original copyright holder since they took the picture with their camera (in most cases it doesn't even seem to matter whose camera they use to take the photo), and they then can transfer their copyright ownership to you if they want. So, you could upload that photo to Commons since you are now the copyright holder of the photo even though you didn't take the photo yourself per Commons:But it's my own work!. However, you would also be expected to be able to back up your claim per COM:EVID, particularly if the photo has been published somewhere prior to it being uploaded to Commons. If after you upload the photo someone felt your claim of copyright ownership was a bit sketchy, more formal verification of your copyright ownership may be requested. Simply saying that your friend took the photo and then gave it too you as a gift might not be considered sufficient; you may be asked to provide something in writing like a en:copyright transfer agreement or have your friend send in a COM:CONSENT email for license verification purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@user:Marchjuly thank you for your comprehensive and helpful answer! Just one more clarifying question: in the circumstance above where I own gifted media, do I upload it under the option “This is my own work”? (Does “own” here mean both authorship and/or transferred ownership?) Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 18:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to that question. However, whatever you chose can always be changed after the file has been uploaded. So, I believe can choose "own work" for the purposes of uploading the file, but can then diredtly edit the file's page to amend that claim to something more accurate and appropriate. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Al83tito: I agree with Marchjuly. I assume from the question that you are using Special:UploadWizard; it's a bit clumsy for this case. Tell the wizard "Own work", but then promptly go in and credit the correct author. Explain the copyright situation in the "permissions" field of {{Information}}. And, of course, go through the VRT process. - Jmabel ! talk 02:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to add an image from Wikipedia English to Wikipedia french ? (That image is in Wikimedia Commons)[edit]

Hello all the team ! :-)

On Wikipedia English, there is an very good image, so i want to put it, on the same page, in Wikipedia French. How to do that, in the appropriate way, with respect of the author, and rules of Wikimedia ?

1) I would download the file, from Wikipedia English, then upload it to that same page on Wikipedia french. But i am not the author of the image. So, in the upload wizard, i would tick "Not my own work". Then in the Source input, i would put the URL of the image, in Wikimedia. Is there something else that i should do?

2) Is there a direct way ? Since the image is already in Wikimedia, is it possible to simply put the URL of the Wikimedia's image, directly in the code of the Wikipedia page, where i want it to appear ? Usually, i would upload an image and add the code like this : File:Image.png|thumb|The description of that image With the URL, how should i do it? Is it like this ? File:Www.urlOfTheImageOnWikimedia|thumb|The description of that image

Thanks for reading and taking time to answer...

;-) Isa (Isabeau777 (talk) 09:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Hi Isabeau777. If you can provide the name of file, then it might be easier for someone to give you a more specific answer. Commons is a global project and images uploaded to it can, in principle, be used on any of the local Wikipedias like English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, etc. as well as any other WMF project; however, each individual project may have its own policies and guidelines regarding image use that is separate from Commons policy. So, you will need to make sure the way you want to use the image complies with the image use policies and guidelines of French Wikipedia.
If the image you want to use has already been uploaded to Commons, then it should be fairly simple to add the image to the page where you want to use it from a technical standpoint; you just need to add the image's file syntax to the page. There are some different ways this can be done depending on how and where the image is going to be used, but there should also be information about this somewhere on French Wikipedia.
On the other hand, things get a bit more complicated if the file you want to use was uploaded locally to English Wikipedia because those files can only be used on English Wikipedia. In order to use the file on French Wikipedia, you will need to either (1) upload the file to Commons or (2) upload the file to French Wikipedia. You have to be very careful here because many files uploaded locally to English Wikipedia are licensed as non-free content and these files can't be uploaded to Commons per COM:FAIR. So, if the English Wikipedia file is non-free content, you will need to upload it locally to French Wikipedia. I'm not very familiar with French Wikipedia, but English Wikipedia's policy on non-free content is very restrictive. First, you're going to have to determine whether French Wikipedia allows non-free content to be uploaded and used. If it doesn't, then there's most likely no way you'll be able to use the image on French Wikipedia. If it does, you're going to have to figure what French Wikipedia's policy on non-free content use is and then assess whether the way you want to use the file will satisfy that policy. Any questions specifically related to non-free content use on French Wikipedia probably should be asked on French Wikipedia because that's were the file is going to be hosted and that's where it's ultimately going to be determined whether the file is OK to use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Isabeau777: Hi, and welcome. Please see also en:H:PIC or fr:WP:IMG (the wikitext syntax is the same, but the instructions vary by language).   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:49, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Isabeau777: Bonjour, Puisque, selon le titre de la question, l'image est déjà sur Commons, alors il suffit de l'utiliser directement, exactement de la même manière qu'une image qui serait déjà sur Wikipédia en français. Donc, selon l'exemple ci-dessus, Fichier:Nom du fichier|thumb|Description. On n'utilise pas l'URL. Il n'est pas utile de téléverser une copie supplémentaire de l'image sur Wikipédia en français. En fait, c'est notamment à ça que sert Commons : avoir une seule copie de l'image sur Commons et pouvoir l'utiliser directement sur tous les autres sites Wikimedia. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How can i upload audio files and videos (ogg, ogv, etc.)[edit]

How can i do this--BoulevardBowl27 (talk) 11:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BoulevardBowl27: Hi, and welcome. Please see COM:FT and COM:FS.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:52, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
More at User talk:Jeff G.#‎How do i upload an ogg file?.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:David Bunning Confirmation.jpg[edit]

This screenshot from C-SPAN is tagged as "work prepared by an officer or employee of the United States Government as part of that person’s official duties", but from what I understand of [1], it seems this kind of image is not Commons-acceptable. Am I missing something? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång. A screenshot from C-Span isn't automatically {{PD-USGov}} because it's from C-Span, but in this case this might be OK because it appears to be a screenshot from a en:Senate Judiciary Committee hearing per the source, which would seem to be covered as a "Congressional commitee hearing" per the C-Span license page you linked to above. However, there is a possible rub and that has to do with the location of the hearing. The hearing took place at the en:Dirksen Senate Office Building and not the actual en:United States Senate chamber. That in an of itself could be all that's needed as a reason the file can't be kept as licensed. It might seem like a trivial distinction to make perhaps, but it might be enough. If it does turn out that this file is OK for Commons, then there might be a more specific license like {{PD-USGov-Congress}} or even {{PD-CSPAN}} that should be used instead of "PD-USGov". -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @Marchjuly, then I won't bother nominating it for deletion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I don't know enough about this type of thing to say whether the file 100% OK for Commons. Others may be more confident in making that assessment. I do, however, think that this wouldn't be something suitable for speedy deletion; so, COM:DR would be the way to go if you feel the file shouldn't be kept. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:22, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree, I wouldn't have gone speedy in this case, to murky for me. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: You might want to take a look at COM:VPC#PD-CSPAN question since the location of the hearing does matter because the cameras used to film hearings with the US House and US Senate chambers are apparently owned by the US federal government and operated by US government federal employees. C-Span just broadcasts the feed it has access to from the cameras and it adds it logo to that feed. Video broadcasts of other hearings at other venues are done by C-Span employees using C-Span equipment. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Base template for indicating simultaneous publication[edit]

Do we have a template that can show a file remains in copyright in one country while we have retained the file due to simultaneous publication in the US? If not, could you suggest any similar templates I could use as a base to create a new one?

This relates to the retention of images from Winnie the Pooh (1926) which is PD in the US while in-copyright in the UK until 2046. The images were discussed at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Works by Ernest Howard Shepard and the consensus was to keep them.

Due to the lack of an explanatory note on the file pages, an editor in good faith marked all the images as copyright violations.[2] As there are 119 files from the book, I'd like to insert a consistent message using a suitable template. From Hill To Shore (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I don't think we have an existing template to clarify that, but it would make sense to have one. - Jmabel ! talk 17:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you upload album covers if the band no longer makes music?[edit]

For example; I want to upload the cover of an album and the band hasn't made music since 2008. Can I still upload it? I'm The One Man Who Knows Everything (talk) 21:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The copyright for the cover-artwork doesn't vanish automatically with the band's demise. --Túrelio (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image upload[edit]

I wish to add an image of a town parish map (Sea Lake) which I understand to be in the public domain. But I did not draw it. May I? AndiJoan (talk) 03:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@AndiJoan: Hi, and welcome. What can you tell us about the name and lifetime of the copyright holder?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Closely related: on what basis do you believe it is in the public domain? - Jmabel ! talk 16:23, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Method to automate editions[edit]

Hey, I’ve recently uploaded some files to this category. Even though I’m quite sure the content is in the public domain as it’s a 1800 book, I noted that I’ve used the {{PD-old-100-expired}} template instead of the {{PD-scan|PD-old-100-expired}}. Since I wanted to be more precise, but considering the fact that editing manually 150+ pages is impracticable, is there any way to automate this process? RodRabelo7 (talk) 15:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RodRabelo7: VFC: Help:VisualFileChange.js. - Jmabel ! talk 16:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I had just discovered it! Face-smile.svg RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Video Subtitling[edit]

Hi, I've recently found a video on here called "The Devil Bat". I've recently gotten into adding subtitles to it, but the media player that opens the video isn't very precise, it doesn't measure the milliseconds, different from the SubScript text thing it offers to use to add subtitles. Is there a way to display the milliseconds on Wikimedia for videos? Insnesnakos (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Insnesnakos: if you don't get a good answer here after a day or two, try Commons:Graphic Lab/Video and sound workshop. - Jmabel ! talk 02:42, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, thanks for the option! I'm still pretty new around here. Insnesnakos (talk) 22:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Insnesnakos: i used https://www.nikse.dk/subtitleedit/online and found it quite good. it can load a video by url. it takes some time to learn how to use it.--RZuo (talk) 10:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the link! I'll look into using it. Insnesnakos (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding complete reference within the caption of a thumbnail[edit]

Is there a wiki-markup for including the reference within the caption of a thumbnail instead of the references showing up at the bottom of the page? Raquel Baranow (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Raquel Baranow: Practically, syntax like [[File:example.jpg|right|this {{cite web|url=http://www.example.com|title=Example.com}}]] doesn't work here;
that [1]
[[File:example.png|right|that <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.example.com|title=Example.com}}</ref>]] works here slightly at right (but displays no "that 1") with an external {{Reflist-talk}} (would get unwieldy if there were other refs on the page).   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References

  1. ↑ Example.com.
Example.com
I do not exactly understand what you want, but could including the reference in the description of a thumb be a solution? [[File:example.jpg|thumb|[http://www.example.com Example.com]]] Wouter (talk) 09:14, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, thanks for trying! (I tried tweaking Jeff G’s syntax but that didn’t work either.) The problem is: I have a multi-image each with a caption that requires references and the multi-image also has a paragraph as a footer summarizing the pictures in the multi-image. It would be neat if the complete references appeared below the footer-caption instead of at the bottom of the page. I thought it would be easier to ask here for syntax to do it with a thumbnail, I could make that work too. One of the reasons for this is: if someone wanted to make a screenshot of the multi-image/ thumbnail, it would not include the footnotes if they’re at the bottom of the page. Raquel Baranow (talk) 15:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If I understand it well, it is a multi-image on a Wikipedia page as in the top of the infobox of w:en:Amsterdam an not as in that of w:en:London. Wouter (talk) 15:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmmm, yeah, that’s interesting but it would be an infobox with references to articles or books below, at the bottom. I’m thinking I could just add the references below the multi-image footer using superscript numbers. Raquel Baranow (talk) 15:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Datchūno[edit]

Can anyone please tell me what this category is supposed to be about because i have no clue? Trade (talk) 00:52, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Convenience link: Category:Datchūno. - Jmabel ! talk 02:43, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Trade: Category:Datchūno is about the following per Google Translate of ja:パイレーツ_(お笑いコンビ): "Pirates is an eclectic talent of gravure idols and comedians formed in April 1997 by the combination of Yoshimi Asada and Haruka Nishimoto ." Please link pages you post about.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pirates? Trade (talk) 02:49, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Trade: looks to be a particular female posture that, judging by the photos, is a "thing" in Japan. The linked ja-wiki article ja:パイレーツ (お笑いコンビ) is unreferenced, but via Google translate suggests it was some sort of running gag on a bad Japanese comedy show. - Jmabel ! talk 02:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The posture appears to translate in English as "women leaning forward with elbows held in to show more cleavage".   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G.: that's the article about the show, but if you follow a bit further you will see that this isn't about the show as such, it's about that term that was used on the show. - Jmabel ! talk 02:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, the fact that it is written in katakana means it's almost certainly a neologism on the show, and probably built out of foreign loan words, rather than having a Japanese root, but the etymology is not quickly obvious. Pinging @Benzoyl, can you explain? You created the category. - Jmabel ! talk 02:55, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Googling "だっちゅーの" does suggest that the images match the term, but doesn't do a thing to help me work out the etymology. - Jmabel ! talk 02:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Open Gaming or Game License ("OGL 1.0a")[edit]

I think the OGL should be added as an approved license on the commons.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AbilitiesandConditions.pdf Slinkyw (talk) 01:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes check.svg Resolved
I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. Jmabel ! talk 03:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Plastic fishing-net floats[edit]

At File:Net floats - Museum of the North Beach.jpg, I've used Category:Fishing floats, but that seems to be floats for angling, not net fishing. We have Category:Fishing balls, but that is for glass floats. Do we really have no category for these plastic fishing-net floats? They are certainly a common enough object, I'd imagine we'd have dozens of pictures of them. - Jmabel ! talk 05:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

cat. naming old/Old testament[edit]

What is the correct naming, see for example Category:17th-century paintings of Old Testament v. Category:1660s paintings of old testament. In my view, the first capital is not necessary while the 2nd one is kind of wrong. I suggest no capitals at all. When using HotCat, it is not of importance but not everyone knows it. In any way, it just looks better to have a contiguous naming. --Mateus2019 (talk) 09:31, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Mateus2019: when used as a noun in English, always capitalized (both words) as are "New Testament" and "Bible" (and for that matter the names of other sacred texts: "Torah", "Pentateuch", "Koran", "Bhagavad Gita"). - Jmabel ! talk 16:02, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thank you, this is helpful. I will adopt it soon. This rq. is solved. Greez, --Mateus2019 (talk) 16:09, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help request[edit]

Hello! I'm an admin from SqWiki and my community is recently preparing to set up a photo-contest about food pictures in Commons, something we did last year too.

I'm having some problems while creating the needed technical infrastructure for such a project.

For example, I'm failing to see why the jury subpage in here (switch to English) doesn't exist even though it actually does. Its name was recently changed because of a typo (the page dot moved) and I fixed the link after but it still remembers the old link somehow. I thought it could be a caching problems but 2 days have gone by and it hasn't changed. I don't know what I'm missing.

Another problem is about the subpage where the images are supposed to be collected, a category page: Category:Traditional Albanian food photography competition - 2023. I'm not sure how to mark it for translation. I tried translating its header subpage but nothing changed.

I would greatly appreciate some help from a tech-savvy user for these problems. Thank you in advance! - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Upload nominated for deletion[edit]

An administrator called Rosenzweig left a message (on Commons) about possibly deleting a drawing of railings (from a Victorian trade catalogue) that I uploaded in the article entitled Saracen Foundry. It was said that there would be a discussion about it on a Talk page. How do I find this page? Could someone find it for me? BFP1 (talk) 14:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply] 

Apologies after writing the above, the BFP1 Commons Talk page became apparent. The web page source for the catalogue indicated is the following  https://archive.org/details/waltermacfarlaneco.vol11890s/page/n237/mode/2up

This indicates that its usage is in the public domain. Could some who is more able than me add the web site appropriately to the reference if that is required — Preceding unsigned comment added by BFP1 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Frank Moss Bennett @BFP1: --Trade (talk) 15:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BFP1: Is this about File:Railing design No 830 as shown in the Illustrated Catalogue of Macfarlane's Castings published in the 1890s.png or something else? Because it looks like that issue was resolved years ago.
Please, when asking about a particular file, link the file page.
I see there is a separate, recent deletion discussion about paintings by F.M. Bennett. Perhaps you are asking about that? I don't see anything there about railings. It is being discussed at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Frank Moss Bennett, which was also linked from your user talk page. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For the record: The message about File:Railing design No 830 as shown in the Illustrated Catalogue of Macfarlane's Castings published in the 1890s.png is from 15 November 2021, and it is not by me, but by User:AntiCompositeBot. The issue was resolved a day later apparently. --Rosenzweig τ 17:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I received today an email from Wikimedia Commons titled Rosenzweig left you a message on Wikimedia Commons. It got me worried and that is why I posted a query. I am glad it seems to have been settled. Sorry to bother everybody. BFP1 (talk) 18:26, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MH17 photos?[edit]

I discovered that we are missing the images used in the investigation of flight mh17. The authors are incognito persons in occupied war zones or under court witness protection, but the images are in public use. Is it allowed to upload such images? We are talking about the pictures taken by the witnesses of the transportation of the missile system and the pictures taken at the scene of the disaster. Aleksei Malogin (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Aleksei Malogin: "In public use" means nothing in copyright terms. If something is in the public domain or free-licensed (and in scope, but that shouldn't be a problem in this case), then we can host it. Otherwise, not. I'm guessing nothing here will qualify. - Jmabel ! talk 16:31, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Are you talking about Category:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17? There are plenty of freely licensed images there but as Jmabel said, "in public use" is not relevant. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Ricky81682: agreed, but those are not photos by "incognito persons in occupied war zones or under court witness protection", which are the ones for which I said licensing would be difficult to arrange. - Jmabel ! talk 18:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Strange behavior of image after crop[edit]

I have cropped File:Padovani opera nuova.png and File:Marca tipografica di Paolo Ravagnano.png. These files are used in w:it:Famiglia Ravagnano. The file Padovani opera nuova.png is distorded, the other not. When I change the wikitext to [[File:Padovani_opera_nuova.png|miniatura|200px|xxxxx]] the problem remains. With the other image there is no problem. Loading the image with the problem from the italian page gives w:it:File:Padovani_opera_nuova.png, which looks like the pre-crop version. What is the problem with that file and how can it be solved? Wouter (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

May be. I found now with browser Safari a normal behavior. With Firefox there is still the problem even after closing the browser, purging the files and doing null edits. Wouter (talk) 20:42, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wouterhagens: Did you try clearing the cache in your Firefox?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Uploads by Miansari66[edit]

I found this Category with two files and another inappropriately named Category with just over 400 files. All of them are good quality contributions related to food. Apparently there are many more at random checks. Request someone to bring all together through bot/automated action. Thanks. Jazze7 (talk) 10:09, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Imagen[edit]

Hola buenas, soy un trabajador de la empresa alquibarsa, y estoy haciendo un articulo para su creador, Salvador Barcelo Saez y quiero subir una foto que mi empresa tiene los derechos de autor pero vuestro filtro no me lo acepta ¿Que puedo hacer? AlejandroPeragon (talk) 11:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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